Office of Public Protector Strategic Plan & Budget Vote briefing, & Mandating Procedures of Provinces Bill: approval
SECURITY
AND CONSTITUTIONAL AFFAIRS SELECT COMMITTEE
07 June 2007
OFFICE OF PUBLIC PROTECTOR STRATEGIC PLAN AND BUDGET VOTE BRIEFING, &
MANDATING PROCEDURES OF PROVINCES BILL: APPROVAL
Chairperson: Mr L M Mokoena (ANC)
Documents handed out
Presentation by Public
Protector
Proposed amendments
on Mandating Procedures of Provinces Bill
Department of Justice and Constitutional Development:copy of letter from K
Suliman (confidential)
Report on
provisional suspension from office Mr Mathe
Report on withholding remuneration Magistrate I Masimini (not distributed)
SUMMARY
The Office of the Public Protector briefed the Committee on its annual report
and financial statements for the years 2005 and 2006, together with a forecast
for 2007-2008. Full details were provided of performances, statistics,
financial performance, challenges, collaborations with other institutions, and
forward planning. The mandate of the Office of the Public Protector was to
assist in strengthening constitutional democracy through investigations of any
prejudicial conduct by an organ of state. The Office had shown significant
growth and additional offices were planned, in order to reach the rural communities.
There was still a malfunctioning of the IT case management system; and although
a temporary manual system as utilized it was not satisfactory. An audit firm
had been hired to check, and implement, the IT case management system to
produce an adequate database. There had been unqualified audits by the Auditor
General and any notes by the AG were duly attended to. Statistics were provided
of cases handled, turn around time, gender and staff
profiles, financial performance, classification of spending and challenges
anticipated. The draft budgets for the next three years indicated a drop in
years two and three. The OPP had not spent its full budget for preceding year
and had requested a roll over of funds to 2007-2008.
Members sought clarity on the Mandate of the OPP, the IT system, and commented
that the Public Protector’s comment that he was not proficient in IT was
understandable but not an excuse. They asked questions on the malfunctioning of
the IT system, the reason for the closing down of the system that had seemingly
worked well in the Office of the Ombudsman, the costs of the audit, the efficacy of the
internal audit, cooperation of other State departments, the relationship with
Government Communication Offices, the nature of complaints, the clinics, and
the necessity of clearing backlogs. Members questioned the skills audit
spending, the pie charts, the assumption of cases investigated on “own
initiative” and the consequent danger of litigation, the overlapping of
activities or interests with other Chapter 9 institutions, especially the Human
Rights and Gender Equality Commissions, and hoped that the new Director of
Communications post would result in positive publicity. Approval was expressed
for reduction of turnaround times and the unqualified audits.
MINUTES
Briefing by the Office of the Public Protector (OPP)
Adv Lawrence Mushwana, Public Protector, Office of the Public Protector,
stated that he would concentrate on three points in his presentation, even
although full disclosure had been made in the accompanying documents. He
emphasised that the mandate of the OPP was to assist in the strengthening of
constitutional democracy through the investigation of any undue delays in
service, or maladministration by government departments, abuse of power or any
conduct by individuals that would result in prejudice to a citizen by an organ
of state. He added that he had gained a lot of experience and hoped both he and
the country would benefit from it.
Ms P Mogaladi, Executive Support, OPP, informed the Committee that the audit
report for the financial year 2005/2006 had been unqualified.
She continued that the National Office was situated in Pretoria with nine
regional offices in the provinces and that regional offices had been
established in Siyabusa and George. Arrangements to cover the vast distances of
the Northern Province were being considered, as the intention was to bring the
services offered by the OPP to those most in need, being the rural poor.
Regional Offices for Upington and Mthatha were soon to be opened and
investigations to establish the most suitable places for offices in KwaZulu
Natal and the Free State were ongoing.
For investigations there were defined strategic objectives under the broad
headings of performance, piloting and delivery. Service delivery indicators had
been defined, and piloting and testing were completed so that there were now
nine systemic investigations under way, with three already completed. As a
standard practice a summary report would be produced on closing the file, which
was intended to be entered into the database, and which would serve as a
register of precedents and statistics from which conclusions could be drawn. 24
formal and specialised reports had been produced. Every case was signed by the
Public Protector (PP) and contained recommendations or findings which were
referred to the Managers of the Departments concerned, so that remedial action
could be instituted with follow up, with the aim of eradicating complaints of a
similar nature in the future.
With regard to Human Resource Management the two chief challenges were the
retention of staff, especially IT staff, through an adequate remuneration
strategy, and skills development and a consequent skills audit and necessary
training. Of equal importance was the development of an adequate HIV AIDS
strategy and a healthcare consultant had been appointed and a wellness centre
established. There was focus on coaching and mentoring the eight senior female
managers, as both public and private institutions in South Africa were
competing in the same small and diminishing pool for female mangers and
professionals. In addition there was the need to strengthen and train staff in
the provincial office and an ongoing assessment and review of staff in terms of
the Performance Management System. Training and delegation were important under
administration and support areas, and the support requirements of the OPP would
be reviewed on an ongoing basis. It was felt that this would be more effective
after the appointment of a security manager. In addition Sizwe Ntsaluba had
been appointed as Internal Auditors, tasked with reviewing the internal
controls, to ensure compliance with the Public Finance Management Act
procedures, and avoid risk. A divisional budgeting strategy had been developed
and was being applied and all financial policies had been developed and were
being applied.
Ms Mogaladi noted that a communication strategy had been developed and there
were good relations established with Government Communication Information
Systems (GCIS) and the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA), which acted as a
service provider for protocol training.
A workshop had been conducted to discuss and finalise outreach strategy and
this would be finalized in this financial year. She noted again that regional
offices had been opened in Siyabuswa and George, where 76 clients were being
serviced monthly. A map reflecting the points and numbers of clinics serviced
monthly was tabled.
In the areas of learning organization and information technology, the challenge
was to develop and then retain knowledge, with a view to easing the case
management system. There had been some problems with the State Information
Technology Agency (SITA) but IT policies had been developed and adopted and an
IT Disaster recovery plan adopted.
Ms Mogaladi tabled the statistical overview for the last ,
indicating that 17 415 complaints had been received and 14 103 cases had been
brought forward. 17 619 cases had been finalised and 31 518 awaited
investigation. At present it was not possible to do a breakdown into provinces
or area per office, although it was hoped this could be done with the new IT
case Management system.
Many complaints lodged, especially by the private individuals, were matters
outside the jurisdiction of the OPP and so a distinction was made between clear
and “irrelevant” cases. As soon as resources allowed, the non jurisdictional
cases would be referred to the relevant destinations and monitored in order to
provide a support base for constitutional democracy. There were declines in the
numbers of complaints lodged in some provinces. A pie chart was provided
reflecting the turn around time it took to finalise each case and it was
reported that only 2% of cases required in excess of 25 months for finalisation,
and here the delay was occasioned either by either the complexity of the cases
or the lack of co-operative responses from Government Departments. Furthermore
the number of cases handled by the National Office was declining because the
Pretoria office was the office of referral.
Mr Z Docrat, Chief Financial Officer, OPP, noted that the total budget for
2005/06 was R59.2 million, of which R58.8 million had been spent. 68 % of
income was spent on staff remuneration, 29 % on goods and services and only 3%
on capital expenditure, and accordingly the OPP was still working to achieve
all strategic objectives from a limited budget. The challenges had lain in
finding the funding for the appointment of appropriate personnel, especially IT
staff, and their retention. In addition the results of the outreach programmes
by the OPP was the generation of more complaints in some provinces, and the
vastness of some provinces meant that the investigators had to travel long
distances, leading to delays and impact upon the costing of the investigations.
Investigation and reporting; communication services; corporate support services
and knowledge management and Information technology had been identified as
strategic goals for the 2006/07 year. From this had emerged the necessity for
every file to have a closing summary, which was retained in the file but added
to the Information System so that precedents and similarities could be entered
into and maintained in the database.
With regard to investigations, Mr Docrat explained that there were eight
strategic objectives, which he set out and explained in detail. He was pleased
to be able to inform the Committee that 95% of cases had been completed within
acceptable target periods, being 2 months. He indicated that 22 own initiative
investigations had been initiated and nine were finalised. Statistical
overviews for the 2006/07 year were presented.
Mr Docrat noted that a senior manager of Communication had been appointed, and
a draft communication strategy was developed. Communication with the media was
strengthened and the branding corporate manual was drafted.
Outreach was important in regard to the Chapter 9 institutions, and cooperative
investigation of matters arising, and, where appropriate, Chapter 9
collaboration and sharing. The outreach activities were funded from donations
from the European Union.
He re-iterated the challenge of finding, developing and retaining skills,
especially IT and noted that an acceptable relationship was still to be
developed with the Public Services SETA. With regard to HIV AIDS a wellness
center, in addition to the appointment of a healthcare consultant, had been
initiated.
In 2006/07 there had again been an unqualified audit report from the Auditor
General and where there were queries or matters of concern raised these had
been attended to.
In the field of corporate services and administrative support the chief concern
was the vehicle fleet. All OPP motor vehicles were now fitted with the Netstar
Vigil Fleet management device which meant that the usage of vehicles and their
whereabouts could be comprehensively monitored.
An effective and efficient registry was being maintained manually, to be
incorporated with the IT system that would soon be implemented, and a records
management manual, as approved by the National Archivist, was being
implemented. Mr Docrat noted that certain additional regional offices had been
deferred to the next year, and he tabled a list of what had been done.
Mr Docrat repeated the problems with regard to the finding, skilling and
retaining of IT staff, and noted that the IT programmes themselves remained a
problem. With regard to the current staffing situation there was decline in
some female numbers and in this regard the salary structures required review. Currently
the staffing gender balance at senior management level was 71% male and 29%
female, but he reminded the Committee that the staff complement was small and
the loss of two female staff members distorted the percentages considerably.
There had been a decline in case numbers and there was a need to request fund
roll overs. .
Mr Docrat stated that the budget allocation for 2006/07 was R 69,46 million, of which 67 % was destined for employee
compensation, 27% for goods and services and 6% for capital expenditure which
was in line with the norm. Historically the OPP was under funded, which meant
that funds earmarked for spending often had to be rolled over to the next
year’s priorities. R61.3 million had been spent. R8 million had been earmarked
to four projects. He indicated that although there was a 10% increase in the
budget, this would leave only 4% after taking inflation into account, and such
small increases would curtail the activities of the OPP.
Dr R Russen, CEO, OPP, then addressed the Committee and stated that he was of
the opinion that the increase in cases reflected a consolidation of democracy,
which the OPP was mandated to support and expand, and that the number of cases
handled or finalised was misleading; what was rather of importance was the fact
that OPP was delivering services in support of constitutional democracy. He
suggested that this meant a need to have a highly professional and highly
competent staff and to retain them. There was around one resignation per month,
and OPP was losing intellectual value and continuity. He felt it was important
to have a lean but professional staffing complement. In the operational area
OPP was adopting a thematic approach and sensitizing people towards government.
Vulnerable children, especially those orphaned and heading households were most
important. To address these needs, OPP needed clear terms of reference, an
adequate budget and an outreach programme.
Limpopo KwaZulu Natal and the Eastern Cape required more attention and
mobile offices were contemplated to visit every part of every province in a
three-year cycle. This was included in the strategic goals.
The number of complaints being carried forward was a major concern, and it was
possible that there was corruption of data in the records maintained by the
former Ombudsman, in the new IT records of the OPP and hence a lacuna in the
record. The manual system could not bring forward everything and thus the
Independent Audit firm had been instructed to undertake an audit as a solution
to the problems. There were some jurisdictional problems, where a complaint
destined for either the Human Rights or Gender Equality Commission was
incorrectly submitted to the OPP, which required collaboration and co-operation
between the various offices.
Discussion
Mr M Mzizi (IFP, Gauteng) noted the reference to 9 systemic investigations and
the finalisation of only 3.
Mr Mzizi was interested to note the overlap of the OPP with the Human Rights
Commission.
Mr Mushwana replied that the intention at OPP was to channel the types of
complaints so that there were protocols and precedents for approaching or
handling the complaints. The drawing up of such systems meant 9 channels of
which 3 were regarded as finalised. He noted that there were a number of cases
relating to appeals to the Department of Justice and Constitutional Development
by prisoners who had completed their full partial jail sentences, and felt that
they were entitled to parole, or wished to appeal their convictions or
sentences yet had not been given assistance by the officials of either the
Department of Justice and Constitutional Development or Correctional Services.
If the appeals process had not been concluded then the OPP could not finalise
the complaint or case.
In regard to the overlap with other Chapter 9 institutions, Mr Mushwana said
that in reality there were complaints lodged which were more truly the concerns
of the Human Rights Commission or the Commission on Gender Equality. When this
was discovered the complaints were not sent back to the source but instead were
referred to the correct institution and there was collaboration in so far as
the complaints were monitored until conclusion. The OPP wanted to establish a
one stop shop or referral centre. The OPP was to be seen as the office of last
resort for it dealt with service delivery complaints and the protection of
Human Rights, but it had no power to take a matter to Court whereas the
specialised Human Rights and Gender Equality Commissions did have that power to
litigate. If the various offices were properly utilised there would be no
overlapping.
In this regard he referred to the Name “Public Protector” and said that in fact
the PP portfolio was truly an Ombudsman, but the framers of the Constitution
had wished to avoid all words of a sexist nature and so “Public Protector” was
chosen instead. “Ombudsman” was used in other countries, where sometimes this
post would be held by a Minister or Councillor, but in all posts the functions
and activities were based on the Paris Principles.
Mr Mzizi was interested to see that of the cases coming to the OPP there was a
male domination while those going to the Commission on Gender Equality (CGE)
were female dominated, and questioned if there was a reason for this.
Mr Mzizi, in regard to international relations and the meeting with the African
Ombud, wished to know whether this was still the same or was to be changed and
how synergy between the African Offices could be achieved.
Mr Mushwana replied that as an affiliate of International Ombudsmen he met with
his African equivalents and shared notes and experiences. He ventured to say
that the PP had become a symbol of PP or Ombudsmen in Africa, and was looked to
for guidance. Angola Ghana and Mozambique were examples of countries that had
followed South Africa’s lead. Efforts were underway to establish an Ombudsman
Institute at the University of Kwa Zulu Natal and it was hoped that this would
be operational before the end of 2007.
Mr Mzizi asked, in regard to Information Technology and the coding errors which
had led to the Case Management System becoming defunct, where the errors had
occurred, whether these were ongoing and what effect this had on funding.
Mr Mzizi asked for comment on the outreach and whether the proposals fitted
into this year’s budget, and if so how.
Mr Mzizi asked the reasons for the high rate of resignations in the area of
Information Technology and Knowledge Management, where staff went and what
retention strategy was devised.
Mr N J Mack (ANC, Western Cape) was impressed by the presentation but was
concerned that in his constituency of Beaufort West people seemed to have no
idea of the possibilities offered by the OPP, and that the OPP itself had made
little effort to get into Beaufort West. He was pleased to hear of the
contemplated Mobile Offices and wished to have the provision of services to the
poor, especially the rural poor, as a priority. Also he reminded the OPP that
there were municipal offices or constituency offices and he felt that more if
not some use should be made of these by the OPP.
Mr Mushwana sympathized with Mr Mack on the fact that Beaufort West was so
isolated from the major centres and agreed there was a difficulty in making the
services of the OPP available in such centres. He agreed that prima facie the
use of the constituency offices might provide an rational answer yet reminded
him that the OPP was to be independent, and he was concerned lest co-operation
with constituency offices might be perceived to align the OPP too closely with
any one political party, remarking that as it was the current PP was perceived
to be too close to the governing party. He added that he was a long-standing
member of the ANC, but as the occupant of the OPP must endeavour to be as
unbiased as humanly possible. Despite all attempts on his part he was still
seen as partisan. He saw this as coming from the Oilgate case, notwithstanding
that in over 86 000 cases and especially 300 rulings against the ANC, he had
striven to be impartial. There was another “disputable” case which was on its
way the Supreme Court of Appeals.
Mr Mack was concerned, with regard to staffing in the OPP, to see that there
was no provision or allocation for the appointment of disabled persons and felt
that this should receive attention.
Mr Mushwana conceded that the OPP was doing poorly on employing disabled people
but that this should receive attention soon.
Mr Mack was concerned about the roll over of funding.
Mr Mack enquired about the distinction between Jurisdictional and
non-Jurisdictional matters and wanted to know whether non-jurisdictional
matters were merely closed or referred onto the correct institution.
Mr Mack was concerned that the Public Service SETA, in common with other SETAs,
did not seem to be fulfilling its mandate and wanted this looked into.
Mr Mack noted the reference in the staffing statistics to African males but was
concerned that African Males such as himself were not receiving the deserved
attention.
Mr Mack enquired about the Public Protector himself, who had recently featured
prominently in the Media,
and he asked how the Members of Parliament could assist the PP
himself.
Mr Mack was also concerned about the personal safety of the staff of the OPP,
especially the investigators, and felt that that this might be a reason for
their resignations. He asked if there was any knowledge of bribes being offered
to, or intimidation being directed at the staff of the OPP.
Mr Mushwana said that personally he had never felt any threats or intimidation
in his work and none of his staff had reported any to him.
Mr A Moseki (ANC, North West) asked whether OPP thought it would achieve its
targets.
Mr Moseki asked what retention strategies, if any, were in place for the staff.
Mr Moseki asked, in regard to training orientation, if were
there any key areas or strategic partners.
Mr Moseki asked if the successes of the OPP had been in the towns or in the
rural areas and how many came from the really marginalized rural poor and most
vulnerable. With regard to the outreach programme and the mobile offices, he
asked how did the OPP ensure that the marginalized rural poor and most
vulnerable received attention and services.
Mr Moseki pointed out that the percentages provided on some of the pie charts
exceeded 100% and he wanted to know what strategies there were for including
Kwa Zulu Natal and other provinces in the activities of the OPP.
Ms Mogaladi added that the PP was endeavouring to achieve outreach to all the
provinces and especially the marginalised rural poorest of the poor, and cited
the Mobile offices in this area of achievement. She added that the
investigators were all legally trained, received in-house training to improve
their skills and have them work within a procedure, but she conceded that there
was a need to collaborate with the other Chapter 9 institutions in this regard.
Currently the staff complement was 226 up from 208.
She conceded that the percentages provided in the pie chart on page 21 were
inaccurate and asked the committee to regard these as a typographical errors
rather than an attempt to mislead. MAB was explained as office
Mr D Worth (DA, Free State) also pointed out that the pie chart on page 21
added up to 125.4 % and not 100% and he wanted clarification on some of the
references.
Mr Worth wished to know why the number of information sessions was so high.
Mr Worth enquired, in relation to the cases settled, which were
the top ten State Departments involved. He indicated that there was
reference to the SAPS and asked why such cases were not reported to the
Internal Complaints Directorate (ICD) at the SAPS.
Mr Mushwana added that the OPP was continually engaged with training and there
were ongoing attempts at standardizing the approaches of all the African
Ombuds. With regard to the SAPS appearing, these matters were regarded as not
falling within the ambit of the ICD investigation, and most related to
perceived rudeness or lack of assistance of SAPS officials.
Mr Worth expressed the hope that the designers of the case management system
were not the same designers as those of the E-Natis system that had failed so
spectacularly.
Mr Mushwana said that the Office of the Ombudsman had had a computerised case
management system but it had become corroded or corrupted. When the OPP was
instituted a new computerised case management system was instituted but this
had also become corroded or corrupted and when there was an attempt to merge
the two systems to retain common precedents the merged system had become
further corroded. There was thus the need to seek input from an Internal
Auditor. SITA had not proved reliable in assisting the OPP. The Treasury had
refused money to rectify the system hence the need to approach external
Auditors.
Mr J W le Roux asked what was the problem with the Department of Public Works
in relation to the OPP and how, in short, the OPP felt it could deliver an even
better service.
Ms Mogaladi added that with regard to the Department of Public Works, National
Treasury regulations supervened. Whenever expenditure of R200 000.00 or more
was contemplated this had to be advertised by way of the tender process and
this took not less than four months if there was no difficulty.
Mr A Manyosi (ANC, Eastern Cape) asked for further details about staffing and
the difficulty of retaining staff, and noted that there were allegations that
Mr Mushwana himself had left Parliament for the greener pastures of the OPP.
There were complaints that OPP was
always
under funded and he wanted an investigation of the costing of cases, and what
was the main reason for the under funding. With regard to reward structures, he
asked what steps were contemplated to bring rewards in line with activities and
the market place.
Mr Mushwana said that in respect of staff remuneration the Public Service
Commission also played a role and the OPP could not unilaterally set its own
terms and conditions of employment. It was, however, endeavouring to persuade
the Public Service Commission of the peculiar needs of the OPP. Every user of
IT personnel was faced with the same problem since the pool of IT personnel was
small.
Ms Mogaladi reiterated that the finding, skilling and then retention of IT
staff was a major problem and no sooner were such staff settled in and proving
competent they would be poached away with enormous remuneration packages. It
must be recognised that there was a general country-wide shortage of IT people
and then the need to accommodate the Employment Equity exacerbated the
situation.
Adv Mamiki Shai, Deputy Public Protector interposed that most of the staff
leaving were IT staff and not the investigators. A
merit system had been introduced but this had run foul of the Public Service
Commission regulations. There were ongoing attempts to develop flexibility with
regard to remuneration.
Mr Mushwana said the OPP was working on a new remuneration strategy, especially
for the investigators, who were now on level 7 while the administrative staff
had been lifted from levels 3 and 4 to at least level 5. He reminded the
committee that women staff at all levels were in demand to meet Employment
Equity criteria. Dr Russen had dealt with the development of a management
system to retain staff and expertise and experience.
Mr Manyosi asked in addition what preventative measures were being contemplated
or set up to prevent new cases similar to those already investigated being
brought forward by other complainants.
Mr Manyosi asked what was the problem with the Legal Aid Board, which he though
operated in many of the same areas as the OPP
Mr Mushwana said that the Legal Aid Board was an organ of state and when
applications for legal aid were turned down then there was an appeal to the OPP
in an attempt to persuade the LAB to reconsider.
Mr Moseki asked if the OPP had canvassed any other sources of funding and, if
it was being funded by the State, how could it be truly independent.
Mr Docrat stated that in the budget only R360 million, set aside for audit fees
and legal costs had been rolled over, and this amount needed to be seen in the
light of service accounting fees. He added that the Office was funded in terms
of Regulations from the Treasury and always faced the problem of motivating for
further increases of the budget. In this regard it could be viewed or argued
that the OPP was not independent as desired by the Constitution but there was
independence in its work, although not total independence from the funding
point of view.
Mr Docrat then added that the office was under funded for it received a basic
amount but there were additional unforeseen costs in bringing justice to the
people. Additional funding had been obtained from the EU, but there was a
problem with funding from other sources as frequently these sources had an
agenda that they required to be followed, which impacted upon the independence
of the OPP.
The Chairperson then wished to know why the Free State had such a high profile
in the OPP report.
The Chairperson then suggested that further questions be responded to in
writing before the forthcoming debate.
Mr Mzizi then referred to the Mandate of the OPP as set out on page three of
the handout and asked that if there were any problems in the OPP writing to the
constituency representatives.
The Chairperson asked which Government Departments were not implementing the
recommendations in the case summaries, and the reasons. Additionally he wanted
to know how the investigators were chosen and felt that much more could be done
by the OPP to market itself. He asked what type of cases were not included in
the budgets and had to be attended to. He mentioned reports by the CGE that men
attempting to lay certain complaints charges were laughed at or driven away
from police stations, and reiterated the concern that OPP seemed to receive
very few reports from women. He
enquired what the total human resources were in the OPP, and how far these
could be pushed.
Mr Moseki said that the Scorpions were under investigation and wished to know
under what conditions the investigations were continuing.
Mandating Procedures of Provinces Bill
The procedures were presented by one of the legal advisors to Parliament and
were accepted unanimously.
Consideration of documents for submission to the Magistrate’s Commission
Mr J Labuschagne, Department of Justice and Constitutional Affairs, presented
documentation to be forwarded to the Magistrates’ Commission, outlining certain
complaints, and the results and sentencing of their trials. The Committee took
a resolution to be conveyed to the Magistrate’s Commission.
The meeting was adjourned.
