Police Portfolio Committee: Outstanding Minutes
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Police
26 July 2010
Chairperson: Ms L Chikunga (ANC)
Meeting Summary
The Committee met to consider and adopt eight sets of outstanding minutes. The minutes dated 24 February 2010, 2, 9, 17 and 24 March 2010 were adopted with a few minor amendments, while the minutes dated 10, 16 and 23 March were deferred as Members had concerns about information that was not properly captured and responses to questions that had not been included in the minutes.
Meeting report
Adoption of Outstanding MinutesMinutes dated 9 March 2010
The Chairperson opened the meeting and tabled the minutes dated 9 March 2010 for consideration.
The minutes were adopted after a few amendments were made.
Ms A van Wyk (ANC) reminded Members that the Committee had not been happy with explanation given by Commissioner Bheki Cele around the revised targets for combating serious and violent crimes.
Rev K Meshoe (ACDP) stated that the Committee’s opinion needed to be reflected on this matter.
Minutes dated 17 and 24 March 2010
The Chairperson opened the floor for Members to make inputs.
The minutes were adopted after a few amendments were made.
Minutes dated 10, 16 and 23 March 2010
The Chairperson opened the floor for Members to make inputs.
The Committee felt that all three minutes could not be adopted in their current form and these were deferred until all the missing information had been added.
Minutes dated 2 March 2010
The Chairperson opened the floor for Members to make inputs.
The minutes were adopted after a few amendments were made.
Mr M George (COPE) noted that the Provincial Commissioners name was incorrect and asked that it be corrected.
Ms Wyk noted that the minutes had not mentioned detective vehicle allocation and the carrying on of cases and asked for this discussion to be added to the minutes.
Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) asked that the statement from Commissioner Petros be amended as there were valid reasons why a bullet-proof vest could not be worn. She also suggested that the wording of best and worst performing stations be amended.
Ms van Wyk suggested that the list of examples mentioned by the Chairperson in the minutes be scrapped as she felt that it was irrelevant unless it was put in context.
The Chairperson felt that the criteria for determining best or worst performing stations could not, on its own, be a determining factor as police could manipulate statistics.
Ms Kohler-Barnard was disinclined to scrap the examples, but felt that the Chairperson should rather add the province next to each example. This could then add some context and solve the problem.
The minutes were adopted after all the suggestions were incorporated.
Minutes dated 24 February 2010
The Chairperson opened the floor for Members to make inputs.
Ms van Wyk noted that the attendance register was incomplete.
The Chairperson questioned the statements relating to the 35% budget allocation for Programme Administration and Property Management and Maintenance of police stations.
Ms van Wyk expressed concern about this paragraph as she felt that it was not what Treasury was saying. It was not the Department of Public Works but the Department of Police that would need to take control of maintenance. She asked the Committee Secretary, Mr Jeremy Michaels, to check this and amend as necessary.
Ms Kohler-Barnard questioned whether there was any mention of the R20 000 budget that was available to police stations for minor maintenance. It seemed as if most police stations were not aware of this money.
Ms van Wyk felt that part of the bigger problem was the fact that police stations still needed to apply to the Department for this funding.
Ms D Schafer (DA) questioned whether 8% was a viable amount to use as a target because, depending on the total, 8% could be a large amount.
Ms van Wyk suggested that the Committee politically pursue this matter.
Ms Schafer expressed her dissatisfaction with the tender process.
The minutes were amended and thereafter approved.
The meeting was adjourned.
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